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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:37 pm 
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The batteries are the size of a button on a man's shirt, small silvery dots that power hearing aids for several hundred Palestinian students taught by the Atfaluna Society for Deaf Children in Gaza City.

Now the batteries, marketed by Radio Shack, are all but used up. The few that are left are losing power, turning voices into unintelligible echoes in the ears of Hala Abu Saif's 20 first-grade students.

The Israeli government is increasingly restricting the import into the Gaza Strip of batteries, anesthesia drugs, antibiotics, tobacco, coffee, gasoline, diesel fuel and other basic items, including chocolate and compressed air to make soft drinks.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22268682/

And the U.S. just stands beside and watches these War Crimes unfold with no problems. Countless thousands of people, innocent civilians, suffering from Israel's blockade. This is referred to in the Geneva Conventions as "Collective Punishment", and is a war crime offense.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:37 pm 
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What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict? One can argue, of course, that Shoher is ultra-right, but his followers are far from being a marginal group. Also, he rejects Jewish moralistic reasoning - that's alone is highly unusual for the Israeli right. And he is very influential here in Israel. So what do you think?

uh, here's the site in question: Middle East conflict


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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:11 pm 
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Unfortunately I don't really follow politics or figures in Israel that much, so to answer your question, I don't know anything about him. From a quick Google of him, it looks like he's a hard-core militant that wants to continue the current process that Israel is doing to Palestine. In my opinion, that's the major problem with this conflict, and that position must be abandoned, but I'm so far removed from the situation on the ground, I don't know shit.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:15 pm 
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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton confirmed Monday that as president she would be willing to use nuclear weapons against Iran if it were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel.

Clinton’s remarks, made in an interview on MSNBC’s “Countdown With Keith Olbermann,” clarified a statement she made last week in a Democratic presidential debate in Philadelphia. In that debate, Clinton, D-N.Y., said an Iranian attack on Israel would bring “massive retaliation,” without defining what the phrase meant.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24246275/

Strong words Mrs. Clinton. You can explain to me exactly why you would have such strong backing for Israel that you would use nuclear weapons? That's a damn big statement that doesn't make me particularly comfortable with your leadership abilities.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:00 pm 
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A former U.S. Army mechanical engineer was arrested Tuesday on charges he slipped classified documents about nuclear weapons to an employee of the Israeli Consulate who also received information from convicted Pentagon spy Jonathan Pollard, authorities announced.

Ben-ami Kadish faces four counts of conspiracy, including allegations that he conspired to disclose U.S. national defense documents to Israel and that he acted as an agent of the Israeli government, U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia and FBI officials said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24256527/

I'm sure you can imagine my complete lack of shock with this news.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:32 am 
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An Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites looks “unavoidable” given the apparent failure of sanctions to deny Tehran technology with bomb-making potential, one of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s deputies said Friday.

“If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it. The sanctions are ineffective,” Transport Minister Shaul Mofaz told the mass-circulation Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24998146/

You guys better be DAMN careful of what you say and the type of rhetoric used. Although, I think the above statement is clear as day, people in the U.S. should be scared shitless of this threat, because guess who has pledged the unyielding support to Israel if they attack, or are attacked? That's right, Dubya has backed them up with U.S. guarantees that we will help in the effort. So Israel could provoke a war, and sit back and let the U.S. fight it.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:19 pm 
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A Palestinian man plowed an enormous construction vehicle into cars, buses and pedestrians on a busy street Wednesday, killing at least three people and wounding at least 45 before he was shot dead by security officers.

Israeli police referred to the man as a "terrorist" acting on his own. He repeatedly smashed vehicle after vehicle with the huge shovel on his machine, throwing cars into the air and overturning a bus.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080702/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_bulldozer_attack;_ylt=AoG.YYI3Ce_TkbX.yQYcfKOs0NUE

Now the media wants to label "terrorist" activities of those who use a front-end loader to wreck havoc? This sounds like a disgruntled and pissed off Palestinian that finally cracked from the criminal act of Israel blockading the entire Gaza strip. There is only so much collective punishment one can take before taking action into your own hands, especially if say a family member has died or is currently suffering from Israel's actions. The terrorist label and how much the media is pushing it is what is really scary.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:05 pm 
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From the solemnity of a Holocaust museum to a dusty village battered by Hamas rockets, Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama on Wednesday professed "an unshakable commitment to the security" of Israel, whether the threat comes from terrorists, Iran or elsewhere.

"The way you know where somebody's going is where have they been. And I've been with Israel for many, many years now," he said on a day that bore striking similarities to campaigning in the United States.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080723/ap_on_el_pr/obama_mideast;_ylt=AnUFnpsHja4KKJwMxxcOB6Cs0NUE

Looks like Obama has already been bought and paid for by Israel (more than likely with our more than $5 billion a year in foreign aid). That or he's already being black-mailed up to his ass.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:47 pm 
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Israeli warplanes retaliating for rocket fire from the Gaza Strip pounded dozens of security compounds across the Hamas-ruled territory in unprecedented waves of airstrikes Saturday, killing more than 200 people and wounding nearly 400 in the single bloodiest day of fighting in years.

Most of those killed were security men, but an unknown number of civilians were also among the dead. Hamas said all of its security installations were hit, threatened to resume suicide attacks, and sent at least 70 rockets and mortar shells crashing into Israeli border communities, according to the Israeli military. One Israeli was killed and at least six people were hurt.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28397813/

Of course, Condi Rice is pointing the finger at Hamas saying they broke the truce. Some tit for tat huh? Hamas refuses to extend the truce, and Israel proceeds to dump over 100 tons of bombs in the area. Sounds fair right? Rolling Eyes

All the while, the Obama camp has "no comment" on the situation. Great....

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:10 pm 
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An Israeli bombardment struck outside a U.N. school where hundreds of Palestinians had sought refuge on Tuesday, the U.N. and Palestinian medics said, killing at least 30 people — many of them children whose parents wailed in grief at a hospital filled with dead and wounded.

An Israeli official said its soldiers came under fire from militants hiding in the school and that the building stored Palestinian munitions.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090106/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

Great way to win over the international community guys... I'm sure the bomb dropped on these kids and "suspected" militants was built in and provided by the U.S.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:01 pm 
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The Obama Administration will put forth new peace initiatives only if Israel wants it to, said Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman in his first comprehensive interview on foreign policy since taking office.

"Believe me, America accepts all our decisions," Lieberman told the Russian daily Moskovskiy Komosolets.

Lieberman granted his first major interview to Alexander Rosensaft, the Israel correspondent of one of the oldest Russian dailies, not to an Israeli newspaper. The role of Israel is to "bring the U.S. and Russia closer," he declared.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1080097.html

Thanks to those over at WRH for the link! Wow, Lieberman sounds pretty damn confident that Israel controls the U.S. government. Maybe just blowing smoke to look tough, or did he let some important information slip with a grin?

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:22 am 
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Federal prosecutors moved Friday to dismiss espionage-related charges against two former pro-Israel lobbyists accused of disclosing classified defense information, ending a tortuous inside-the-Beltway legal battle rife with national security intrigue.

Critics of the prosecution of Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman of the American Israel Public Afffairs Committee had accused the federal government of trying to criminalize the sort of back-channel discussions between government officials, lobbyists and reporters that are commonplace in the nation's capital. AIPAC is an influential pro-Israel lobbying group.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30517836/

Big shocker there!! Why would I even be surprised that the government is dropping charges against Israeli lobbyists and AIPAC? I mean, these guys only did what amounts to treason, there's no reason follow up on it. Rolling Eyes

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:14 pm 
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U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Saturday that Israel is making "unprecedented" concessions on West Bank settlement construction — a position clearly at odds with the prevailing Palestinian view.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33560578/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

Unprecedented my ass. I can tell that the Jewish lobby still exerts an enormous amount of clout if Clinton is up on the stand saying these kinds of words as Secretary of State. Once again, change that I can't seem to count on.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:40 pm 
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Israel triggered a fresh rift with Washington over settlement building on Tuesday by approving the building of 900 homes for Jews on West Bank land it occupied in a 1967 war and annexed to its Jerusalem municipality.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_palestinians_israel_jerusalem;_ylt=ApAN2p8PXPEBp2TV0OQrNN.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNpZTMyYmE1BGFzc2V0A25tLzIwMDkxMTE3L3VzX3BhbGVzdGluaWFuc19pc3JhZWxfamVydXNhbGVtBGNwb3MDNQRwb3MDMgRwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2lzcmFlbGFuZ2Vycw--

The U.S. isn't mad about this. If they were really mad, they would start actually leveraging something real, like the Billions in foreign aid or military hardware that gets shipped over to Israel all the time. This is all just smoke and mirrors.

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 Post subject: Re: The U.S. and Israel
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:02 am 
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Israel's prime minister on Tuesday called a British arrest warrant against the country's former foreign minister "an absurdity" and warned that attempts to prosecute Israeli officials for war crimes charges over last winter's Gaza offensive could harm relations between the two countries.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_britain_livni

It's about time a country stood up and started accurately framing the actions of Israel and what that means to the larger global community. You don't have a blank check Israel, and your actions towards Palestine and Lebanon do have consequences!

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